The Gate 15 Interview with Kirk Cerny: Security, old wagons, leadership integrity, Wyoming, and… the afterlife?

February 26, 2024

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In this episode of The Gate 15 Interview, Andy Jabbour welcomes Kirk Cerny, Chief Operating Officer at Haystax. Kirk is a security and counterintelligence professional with 20 years of leadership experience in public & private C-suites. Kirk is a security and counterintelligence professional with 20 years of leadership experience in public & private C-suites. Kirk specializes in threat prevention and mitigation, compliance, and more!

In the discussion we address:

  • Kirk’s Background
  • Haystax
  • School and Facility Security
  • Public Safety & First Responders
  • The new Dragon Pipeline
  • What’s on Kirk’s mind
  • We play Three Questions and talk old wagons, great states, and magic eight balls.
  • Plus: Leadership, values, Gary Fish, and lots more!

A few references mentioned in or relevant to our discussion include:


The Gate 15 Interview is a monthly interview between Gate 15’s founder and Managing Director, Andy Jabbour and guests from throughout the homeland security risk management community addressing a wide range of all-hazards topics and issues. Read more about Gate 15’s full podcast menu at our Podcast page. You can subscribe and enjoy all the Gate 15 Podcasts on Spotify for PodcastersAppleSpotifyGoogle, as well as other locations accessible from the Spotify for Podcasters link. Week-to-week, you can hear and learn more about our all-hazards threats, risks, mitigation and other issues impacting homeland security risk management from our team as well as our regular and special guests. The full podcast menu includes:

  • The Security Sprint is our weekly rundown of the week’s notable all-hazards security news, risks and threats and some of the key focus areas for organizations to consider behind the headlines. Gate 15 team members discuss physical security, cybersecurity, natural hazards, health threats and other issues across our environment.
  • Nerd Out! Security Panel Discussion, moderated by Dave Pounder, focuses on physical security topics including terrorism, extremism, hostile events, and other pertinent topics.
  • The Gate 15 Interview, is a monthly interview between Gate 15’s founder and Managing Director, Andy Jabbour and guests from throughout the homeland security risk management community addressing a wide range of all-hazards topics and issues.
  • Venue Security, The IAVM Podcast Series is our newest podcast as Gate 15’s founder and Managing Director, Andy Jabbour hosts short interviews with venue safety and security experts from the International Association of Venue Managers’ (IAVM) Venue Safety and Security Committee (VSSC) and other special guests from the IAVM community. 
  • The Cybersecurity Evangelist, with Jennifer Lyn Walker, is a cybersecurity-focused discussion with Jen and invited guests. This is presently a Gate 15 special podcast and occasionally is updated on our Gate 15 podcast channel.
  • The Risk Roundtable, was a monthly discussion among our team and occasional guests exploring the all-hazards threats and risks impacting the United States and internationally. This was suspended in September 2023.

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