The Gate 15 Interview – TribalNet! Building a Cybersecurity Culture, Tribal-ISAC, and how we rock!

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In this episode of The Gate 15 Interview, we’re mixing things up! Andy Jabbour recorded this session onsite at TribalNet 2024 with TribalHub’s Senior Marketing & Communications Manager, Michelle Bouschor, who took over as moderator. They were joined by Adam Gruscynski, IT Director, Potawatomi Casino Hotel and Tribal-ISAC Steering Committee member and Drew Ludwick, Director of IT Operations, Muckleshoot Casino Resort, to discuss ideas around cybersecurity and organizational culture. 

In the discussion the group discusses:

  • Organizational culture and what makes a cyber strong organizational culture.
  • Tribal-ISAC! What it is, how it’s like other ISACs, what makes it special.
  • How to build a strong organizational culture and the importance of leadership buy-in and taking things in “chewable bites.”
  • Why we love TribalNet!
  • Some of our favorite concert experiences – some we shared as we talked from Linkin Park to Snoop.
  • And more, of course!

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Michelle Bouschor. With 15 years of experience in tribal casino marketing, tribal government public relations, media, and community relations, I’ve honed my skills in navigating the unique landscape of indigenous communities. For the past 5 years, I’ve proudly contributed to TribalHub, leveraging my expertise to empower tribal entities through innovative solutions and strategic partnerships. Passionate about fostering collaboration and growth within tribal communities, I’m dedicated to driving positive change and sustainable development.

Adam Gruscynski. Responsible for the day-to-day operations of the IT Department for Potawatomi Casino Hotel while ensuring all of the technology needs, whether current or future, of the organization are met. Adam joined Potawatomi Casino Hotel in 2008. During his time at PCH, Adam has gained an abundance of experience by taking on various roles including IT Security Manager, Senior Cybersecurity Engineer, Lead Network Administrator, Network Administrator, and Application Administrator. Prior to PCH, Adam was Network Engineer at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel where he began his career as Help Desk Intern. 

Drew Ludwick. A seasoned IT executive with over 25 years of progressive leadership experience in technology management, specializing in cybersecurity, strategic planning, and technology governance. Known for shaping and executing technology strategies aligned with business goals, leading diverse technology teams, and fostering innovation.


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